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	<title>Comments on: Medical Residents and Health Care Subsidization</title>
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		<title>By: Aaron B Hicks</title>
		<link>http://www.medminded.com/2009/05/medical-residents-and-health-care-subsidization.html/comment-page-1#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron B Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 17:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, residents are a limited resource. Residency review committees and ACGME limit the number of residents each hospital can have, so the economic shift is more complicated. So, once hospitals have maxed out their residents, the residual work will have to fall on, for example, nurses and PAs.

Regardless of how hospitals make up for the deficit, the fact remains that hospitals lose out when they can't overwork their residents. Residents are paid well under the real market value of the services they provide.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, residents are a limited resource. Residency review committees and ACGME limit the number of residents each hospital can have, so the economic shift is more complicated. So, once hospitals have maxed out their residents, the residual work will have to fall on, for example, nurses and PAs.</p>
<p>Regardless of how hospitals make up for the deficit, the fact remains that hospitals lose out when they can&#8217;t overwork their residents. Residents are paid well under the real market value of the services they provide.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://www.medminded.com/2009/05/medical-residents-and-health-care-subsidization.html/comment-page-1#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 17:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears to me that they cheated with their assumptions.  They did not compare apples to apples.

They assumed that if one resident could not work more than 16 hours per shift (at an hourly rate of $8.65/hour), then the hospital not transfer the "excess work from residents" to more residents, but rather to the highly paid "substitute providers." That is not a fair assumption.

A more sensible assumption is that a hospital, being sensitive to costs, will simply hire more residents.  If each resident is only paid $8.65 per hour, then the hospital would likely transfer the excess work to more residents, instead of to the more highly paid “substitute providers.”
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears to me that they cheated with their assumptions.  They did not compare apples to apples.</p>
<p>They assumed that if one resident could not work more than 16 hours per shift (at an hourly rate of $8.65/hour), then the hospital not transfer the &#8220;excess work from residents&#8221; to more residents, but rather to the highly paid &#8220;substitute providers.&#8221; That is not a fair assumption.</p>
<p>A more sensible assumption is that a hospital, being sensitive to costs, will simply hire more residents.  If each resident is only paid $8.65 per hour, then the hospital would likely transfer the excess work to more residents, instead of to the more highly paid “substitute providers.”</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron B Hicks</title>
		<link>http://www.medminded.com/2009/05/medical-residents-and-health-care-subsidization.html/comment-page-1#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron B Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 18:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a summary of the methods from the article abstract:

&lt;i&gt;"Methods: We used published data to estimate labor costs associated with transferring excess work from residents to substitute providers, and we examined the effects of our assumptions in sensitivity analyses. Next, using a probability model to represent labor costs as well as mortality and costs associated with preventable adverse events, we determined the net costs to major teaching hospitals and cost-effectiveness across a range of hypothetical changes in the rate of preventable adverse events."&lt;/i&gt;

So, yes, the study did assign monetary values to decreases in errors and increases efficiency. Even after taking these into account, the total cost of reform still came to $1.6 billion dollars.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a summary of the methods from the article abstract:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Methods: We used published data to estimate labor costs associated with transferring excess work from residents to substitute providers, and we examined the effects of our assumptions in sensitivity analyses. Next, using a probability model to represent labor costs as well as mortality and costs associated with preventable adverse events, we determined the net costs to major teaching hospitals and cost-effectiveness across a range of hypothetical changes in the rate of preventable adverse events.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>So, yes, the study did assign monetary values to decreases in errors and increases efficiency. Even after taking these into account, the total cost of reform still came to $1.6 billion dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://www.medminded.com/2009/05/medical-residents-and-health-care-subsidization.html/comment-page-1#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 19:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you.  I do not understand the justification for forcing medical residents to subsidize the health care system by paying them such a meager wage.

Although I have not studied the article, I question whether the 16-hour per shift limit actually costs money.  I suspect it saves money as a result of fewer errors and increased efficiency.  There have been many studies showing that people are prone to make more mistakes and are less efficient once they have worked more than 8 hours in a shift. Those studies support government policies for payment of overtime pay to employees.  Did the article consider the costs that result from the long work hours?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you.  I do not understand the justification for forcing medical residents to subsidize the health care system by paying them such a meager wage.</p>
<p>Although I have not studied the article, I question whether the 16-hour per shift limit actually costs money.  I suspect it saves money as a result of fewer errors and increased efficiency.  There have been many studies showing that people are prone to make more mistakes and are less efficient once they have worked more than 8 hours in a shift. Those studies support government policies for payment of overtime pay to employees.  Did the article consider the costs that result from the long work hours?</p>
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